Discussion:
Would you like chips with that?
Terry Kirk
2008-01-22 16:57:52 UTC
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I was intrigued by the definition given on Zyzzyva for the high-probaility
7-letter word POUTINE as 'a dish of french fries and cheese curds topped
with gravy'. It definitely wasn't on the menu last time I was at the La
Tour d'Argent. According to Wikipedia it is "a Canadian dish consisting
of french fries topped with fresh cheese curds and covered with gravy."



It goes on to say:




"In the United Kingdom and on the Isle of Man, it is common to find "chips,
cheese & gravy" for sale in a chip shop or "chippy". This usually consists
of brown gravy and grated mild Cheddar cheese." Common? Not in my neck of
the woods it isn't. I don't recall having seen it anywhere in the UK. Is
it a localised speciality anywhere?

Capt K

PS - POUTINE combines with C, L, R and S to make 8-letter words.


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A***@public.gmane.org
2008-01-22 17:02:39 UTC
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In a message dated 1/22/2008 4:58:31 PM GMT Standard Time,
terrykirk1-gM/Ye1E23mwN+***@public.gmane.org writes:

I was intrigued by the definition given on Zyzzyva for the high-probaility
7-letter word POUTINE as 'a dish of french fries and cheese curds topped
with gravy'. It definitely wasn't on the menu last time I was at the La
Tour d'Argent. According to Wikipedia it is "a Canadian dish consisting
of french fries topped with fresh cheese curds and covered with gravy."



I thought the French didn't call chips French fries anyway. The Canadian
French might (being influenced by their neighbours in USA.
Allan






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David
2008-01-22 17:09:18 UTC
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I am pretty sure that the numerous kebab vans in Oxford all offered it
as an option when I lived there back in the early noughties. I can
thoroughly recommend it.

David.

OSC: NOUGHTIES is allowed, but NOUGHTY is not...

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:57:52 +0000, "Terry Kirk"
Post by Terry Kirk
I was intrigued by the definition given on Zyzzyva for the
high-probaility
7-letter word POUTINE as 'a dish of french fries and cheese curds topped
with gravy'. It definitely wasn't on the menu last time I was at the La
Tour d'Argent. According to Wikipedia it is "a Canadian dish consisting
of french fries topped with fresh cheese curds and covered with gravy."
"In the United Kingdom and on the Isle of Man, it is common to find "chips,
cheese & gravy" for sale in a chip shop or "chippy". This usually consists
of brown gravy and grated mild Cheddar cheese." Common? Not in my neck of
the woods it isn't. I don't recall having seen it anywhere in the UK.
Is
it a localised speciality anywhere?
Capt K
PS - POUTINE combines with C, L, R and S to make 8-letter words.
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J***@public.gmane.org
2008-01-22 18:07:28 UTC
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In a message dated 22/01/2008 16:58:26 GMT Standard Time,
terrykirk1-gM/Ye1E23mwN+***@public.gmane.org writes:

"In the United Kingdom and on the Isle of Man, it is common to find "chips,
cheese & gravy" for sale in a chip shop or "chippy". This usually consists
of brown gravy and grated mild Cheddar cheese." Common? Not in my neck of
the woods it isn't. I don't recall having seen it anywhere in the UK. Is
it a localised speciality anywhere?



Chips and cheese, usually available at all good lay-by trailer cafes
(cardiogram not included).

Chips and gravy, served with every meal anywhere 'up north' i.e. above
Winchester.

Chips, cheese and gravy. Never heard of it, sounds revolting.
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Darryl Francis
2008-01-22 19:18:48 UTC
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Available everywhere in Cumbria, though not called POUTINE.

Just usually described as chips, cheese, and gravy, with or without the
cheese or gravy!

I suppose an optional extra might be a deep-fried Mars Bar.
Post by Terry Kirk
I was intrigued by the definition given on Zyzzyva for the
high-probaility
7-letter word POUTINE as 'a dish of french fries and cheese curds topped
with gravy'. It definitely wasn't on the menu last time I was at the La
Tour d'Argent. According to Wikipedia it is "a Canadian dish
consisting
of french fries topped with fresh cheese curds and covered with gravy."
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mikki
2008-01-22 19:40:21 UTC
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And now it's that time of year where the chippy around the corner from me will be selling battered creme eggs for a bit of seasonal variation.

Mikki


Darryl Francis <darrylfrancis-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Available everywhere in Cumbria, though not called POUTINE.

Just usually described as chips, cheese, and gravy, with or without the
cheese or gravy!

I suppose an optional extra might be a deep-fried Mars Bar.
Post by Terry Kirk
I was intrigued by the definition given on Zyzzyva for the
high-probaility
7-letter word POUTINE as 'a dish of french fries and cheese curds topped
with gravy'. It definitely wasn't on the menu last time I was at the
La
Tour d'Argent. According to Wikipedia it is "a Canadian dish
consisting
of french fries topped with fresh cheese curds and covered with gravy."
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Nick Deller
2008-01-23 00:01:12 UTC
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I suppose there's no mileage in coating a creme egg with some nice
sausagemeat and breadcrumbs?

I'll take that as a "no" then. :-)

N

OSC - None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Many words for nothing!

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Post by mikki
And now it's that time of year where the chippy around the corner from me
will be selling
battered creme eggs for a bit of seasonal variation.
tony kalayzich
2008-01-23 01:56:42 UTC
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Collection

PRESENTS
Poutine 101

A PRIMER ON THE PREPARATION OF POUTINE
(sorry this is so long, but necessary to give the whole recipe and story)
Poutine is a French-Canadian food that (very) slightly resembles American Gravy Cheese Fries (Uuukkkk), but is actually very, very different in many respects. Poutine is readily-available across Canada, but it only really tastes good in French Quebec or Maillardville, BC.
Warwick Quebec is the place where poutine was invented, and named, back in 1957 by restaurateur Fernand Lachance, who died recently at the ripe old age of 86, leaving not only his calorific imprint but also some serious questions about the low-carb fuss. Warwick still produces the very best cheese curds which is shipped all over Canada.
The best gravy also comes from Warwick, in a powder form that is mixed with water. Theirs is totally vegan and must be dark brown and just the right consistency when served.
Poutine is Acadian slang for mushy mess and is best described as a heart attack in a bowl.
By the way, there is a proper way to pronounce poutine, and it's not 'poo-teen'. The phonetic pronunciation is 'peu-tin', which always elicits a vacant stare when one orders it using that word.
The French Fries - The potatos must be hand-cut and very fresh. Fast-food-type fries will not taste quite as good. Also, you must fry the potatoes in pure lard. Vegetable oil and other politically-correct oils spoil the unique taste.
The Gravy - French-Canadian gravy (also known as BBQ Chicken Gravy) is very different than American gravy. First of all, it is very dark and thick, like molasses. Secondly, it has a very flavourful taste which cannot be described...very much like pepper and vinegar and other 'magical' ingredients. If you can stand a spoon straight up in it, it's good! Make sure it's very, very hot!
The Cheese - The cheese is the most important part of good poutine. You must use FRESH white, cheddar cheese CURDS. These curds have a taste and texture very different than actual cheddar cheese. The cheese curds will actually squeak in your teeth as you bite them. While curds are available in most Canadian supermarkets, they are not found in many American markets (the closest thing in taste is Mozzarella String Cheese - but don't use this stuff!).
When the curds are placed on the fries and the hot gravy is poured on top, the three flavors combine to produce what can only be described as the BEST junk food taste sensation on earth.
The Bowl - While different types of bowls are used, no one knows why, but poutine seems to taste better when served in a Styrofoam bowl. Perhaps the bowl keeps the heat inside to melt the cheese. Who knows? It tastes good no matter what bowl is used.
Places To Try Poutine - You can only get poutine in Canada.Here are the suggested best places:
- Downtown Ottawa hosts some amazing, original recipe poutine. The 'chip wagons' are everywhere during weekday afternoons and some are around in the evenings and weekends. Local poutine makers use St. Albert cheese curds. In addition, many diner/junk-food restaurants around Ottawa and across the River in Gatineau also make some excellent poutine.
- In Montreal: look for a chain of fast-food joints called LaFleur (the flower).
- In Quebec City: look for any place that has a huge sign in front showing a bucket of fries.
- The best poutine In Quebec (so I have been told) is from the "Patates Plus", located on Pie-XI Boulevard in Val-Bélair, just south of CFB/BFC Valcartier.
- The Maritime Provinces (the Eastern ones) are now serving a good bowl of poutine. Look for it in most restaurants.
- There is an annual Poutine Festival that attracts about 15,000 people to Maillardville, BC each year. There is music, singing and dancing, art shows, storytelling and of course, 'genuine' French poutine. They also serve more traditional French fare, including pea soup, tortiere and maple syrup taffy rolled on snow.
- In British Columbia a few special places serve a version of poutine made with yellow-cheese curds - not nearly as good as the white-chedder version. But still yummy.
- Everyone will have their own favourate place - too many to list here.
- Elsewhere in Canada: New York Fries, Burger King, A&W and a few others serve a 'type' of poutine, but it's still a fast-food version. However, the basic elements are there.
- Avoid Shopping Mall and most other 'Fast Food poutine' at all costs. UUUKKKK!
Anyone hungry for a big bowl of poutine and a big mug of Root Beer?? Pure heaven on earth !
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Geoff Cooper
2008-01-24 09:32:00 UTC
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Post by Nick Deller
OSC - None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Many words for nothing!
Here´s another one - NUTTING

Playing petanque the jack was knocked off the pitch resulting in no
score and the end being replayed. A Norwegian lady player declared, "We
play for nutting."

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John O'Laughlin
2008-01-22 19:46:22 UTC
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Post by Darryl Francis
Available everywhere in Cumbria, though not called POUTINE.
Just usually described as chips, cheese, and gravy, with or without the
cheese or gravy!
I suppose an optional extra might be a deep-fried Mars Bar.
I have no doubt that you could find all of the above in New Jersey diners.

Best part of Poutine Wikipedia entry:
Some Quebec linguists think that the word evolved from Provençal
poutingo, [citation needed] which means bad stew, under the phonetic
influence of English pudding. The Office québécois de la langue
française rejects this theory.

John O'Laughlin
George Macaulay
2008-01-23 03:03:51 UTC
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POUTINES are available in the most common North American
fast food chains.
For a few years (until 2006), POUTINE(S) was a clever phony that might
have staid on the board, especially among Canadian players. Now, we
have the same problem with MOUNTIES*, our highly respected
Canadian gendarmes.

George MacAulay


I was intrigued by the definition given on Zyzzyva for the high-probaility
7-letter word POUTINE as 'a dish of french fries and cheese curds topped
with gravy'. It definitely wasn't on the menu last time I was at the La
Tour d'Argent. According to Wikipedia it is "a Canadian dish consisting
of french fries topped with fresh cheese curds and covered with gravy."

It goes on to say:

"In the United Kingdom and on the Isle of Man, it is common to find "chips,
cheese & gravy" for sale in a chip shop or "chippy". This usually consists
of brown gravy and grated mild Cheddar cheese." Common? Not in my neck of
the woods it isn't. I don't recall having seen it anywhere in the UK. Is
it a localised speciality anywhere?

Capt K

PS - POUTINE combines with C, L, R and S to make 8-letter words.

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M&NO'Rourke
2008-01-23 16:04:44 UTC
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POUTINE is one of a pair of words that trip me up when I am doing Zyzzyva cardbox. I either get POUTINE right and AENOPTU wrong or the other way round.

Mike

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From: Terry Kirk
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Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:57 PM
Subject: [uk-scrabble] Would you like chips with that?


I was intrigued by the definition given on Zyzzyva for the high-probaility
7-letter word POUTINE as 'a dish of french fries and cheese curds topped
with gravy'. It definitely wasn't on the menu last time I was at the La
Tour d'Argent. According to Wikipedia it is "a Canadian dish consisting
of french fries topped with fresh cheese curds and covered with gravy."

It goes on to say:

"In the United Kingdom and on the Isle of Man, it is common to find "chips,
cheese & gravy" for sale in a chip shop or "chippy". This usually consists
of brown gravy and grated mild Cheddar cheese." Common? Not in my neck of
the woods it isn't. I don't recall having seen it anywhere in the UK. Is
it a localised speciality anywhere?

Capt K

PS - POUTINE combines with C, L, R and S to make 8-letter words.

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David Sutton
2008-01-24 11:32:54 UTC
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Nick Deller writes: 'OSC - None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Many words for nothing!'

AUGHT. NAETHING. NAUGHT. NIHIL. NIL. NISH. NOUGHT. NOUT. NUFFIN. OUGHT.
ZILCH. ZIPPO.

-- David Sutton (rushing to repel this invader of his categorical turf)
hels
2008-01-24 11:52:53 UTC
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And many phrases :)

Hels
Post by David Sutton
Nick Deller writes: 'OSC - None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Many words for nothing!'
AUGHT. NAETHING. NAUGHT. NIHIL. NIL. NISH. NOUGHT. NOUT. NUFFIN. OUGHT.
ZILCH. ZIPPO.
-- David Sutton (rushing to repel this invader of his categorical turf)
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nickdelleruk
2008-01-24 11:55:26 UTC
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Post by David Sutton
Nick Deller writes: 'OSC - None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Many words for nothing!'
AUGHT. NAETHING. NAUGHT. NIHIL. NIL. NISH. NOUGHT. NOUT. NUFFIN. OUGHT.
ZILCH. ZIPPO.
-- David Sutton (rushing to repel this invader of his categorical turf)
Nick Deller writes: 'OSC - None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Many words for nothing!'
AUGHT. NAETHING. NAUGHT. NIHIL. NIL. NISH. NOUGHT. NOUT. NUFFIN.
OUGHT. ZILCH. ZIPPO.
-- David Sutton (rushing to repel this invader of his categorical turf)
I wouldn't dare to presume. I am as dot, love, a duck (as distinct
from "cor, love a duck"), nullity, squat, void oblivion compared with
the master of categories!

Nix D.
nickdelleruk
2008-01-24 12:18:04 UTC
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etc...

I foresee a witty question about the duplicate quoted material in my
last message. Pre-empting said witty question, I can reveal that the
answer is 97% likely to be "Because I'm generally incompetent" and 7%
likely to be "Because I'm particularly bad at maths".

Ah, the many-faceted joy of being me! :-)

N

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